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- Secteur d'activité : Marketing et publicité
- Taille de l'entreprise : Auto-entrepreneur
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Zendesk Sell : le logiciel CRM conçu pour optimiser les ventes en ligne
Publié le 26/08/2023
Zendesk Sell reste l'un des meilleurs logiciels CRM pour suivre l'évolution des affaires, trouver...
Zendesk Sell reste l'un des meilleurs logiciels CRM pour suivre l'évolution des affaires, trouver des opportunités de ventes et conculure plus de ventes.
Avantages
Grâce au logiciel CRM Zendesk Sell, il est facile d'optimiser vos performances commerciales. Que vous soyez startups, PME ou encore grandes entreprises, l'outil vous offre un reporting avancé, un suivi intégral des interactions. Vous avez de ce fait un aperçu global de votre productivité et découvrez les différents axes des opportunités de vente. Je l'utilise pour mes clients et j'avoue que j'aime bien les résultats que nous obtenons.
Inconvénients
Meme si Zendesk Sell est l'un des meilleurs logiciels CRM pour améliorer les ventes, il convient de noter qu'il propose des tarifs relativement élevés.
- Secteur d'activité : Urbanisme et architecture
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 2.0 /10
Bon produit mais relation commerciale catastrophique
Publié le 11/07/2023
Avantages
globalement un bon outil de crm, facile à implémenter et rapidement opérationnel.
Inconvénients
Politique commerciale catastrophique. Nous avons fait partie de leurs premiers utilisateurs en France. 5 ans plus tard ils nous annoncent que le coût de notre abonnement mensuel va tripler (49$ à 169$ par mois et par poste!!). On essaie de comprendre et d'échanger avec les équipes commerciales. Réponse : [caché sensible contenu]. Magnifique façon d'aborder la relation client. Dans les échanges on se rend compte qu'ils ne sont pas capables de retracer les discussions que nous avions eues lors de la souscription de notre abonnement il y a 8 ans... à l'époque où ils étaient très contents d'avoir de premiers utilisateurs en France. Pour une société qui vend un crm c'est propre. Bref Sell est un bon outil, mais la politique commerciale qui l'accompagne est catastrophique et vous prend en otage à la première opportunité alors je ne peux que vous recommander de passer votre chemin.
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé toutes les semaines pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 9.0 /10
Utilisation de Zendesk sell
Publié le 30/03/2024
Avantages
Nous avons utiliser Zendesk sell pour le emailling et le support clients
Inconvénients
Nous n'avons pas encore de problème ni d'obstacle
- Secteur d'activité : Comptabilité
- Taille de l'entreprise : 2–10 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les mois pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 5.0 /10
Support de vente
Publié le 20/07/2023
Avantages
La visibilité totale des pipelines de vente Accès facile aux appels
Inconvénients
La manipulation et maîtriseLa version gratuite limité
- Secteur d'activité : Services aux consommateurs
- Taille de l'entreprise : 501–1 000 employés
- Logiciel utilisé toutes les semaines pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 9.0 /10
Awesome CRM tool!
Publié le 21/09/2023
It has been an amazing journey full of learning tips and easy automation.
It has been an amazing journey full of learning tips and easy automation.
Avantages
1. It makes making decisions easy as the data needed is viewable and at a glance.2. It has intuitive sales management tools such as automated auto-messaging of customers.3. You can easily locate and keep track of leads for future sales and marketing calls.4. It enables uninterrupted workflow as the task player automates activities.5. Its email integration feature is amazing and easy to use.
Inconvénients
1. It's a bit pricey if you want more of the advanced features.2. It has a steep learning curve which might be a discouraging factor for some.3. It does not have built-in marketing features, you will have to do the marketing yourself.
- Secteur d'activité : Divertissement
- Taille de l'entreprise : Auto-entrepreneur
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Base is the CRM I decided to commit to using, and overall, I'm very happy with it.
Publié le 13/06/2017
Base has helped motivate me. It makes making calls fun because you can see your goals and your...
Base has helped motivate me. It makes making calls fun because you can see your goals and your progress toward them.
Base keeps me on top of what's important. For example, I called a business to see if they were interested in my services. I was told they were interested but to call back when they planned their event in a year! It's easy to set the task to call the lead back in a year, and even better is that the phone call was recorded. I can listen back and when I follow up, know exactly what's going on.
Base has also given me a clearer picture of which sources of leads are best so I'm able to focus on them first.
I could go on and on about the benefits of using Base. It's a huge part of my business.
Avantages
The best thing about Base is that it works. I tried free trial versions of a couple of other CRMs and my first big test was importing data and mapping it. The very first time I tried this with Base, it worked without a hitch. The other CRMs I tried hit some kind of a snag. I'm sure I could have contacted support or messed with them and gotten then to work, but what's the point when Base worked right the first time?
On a side note, it's been my experience with almost all software that you get what you pay for. Base isn't cheap, but I also never have a problem with it. Again, you could find a cheap or even free CRM and make it work, but at what cost? Time? Aggravation?
The second reason I chose Base is because voip is integrated without having to figure out some third party way of making calls, tracking the data, and recording them. With Base, you have everything you could want in terms of a sales CRM.
Lastly, the reports are awesome. They give you any kind of info you could want.
Inconvénients
In my list of pros, I mentioned that everything you could want in a sales CRM is built into Base. However, on the marketing side, it leaves a lot to be desired. I'm a one-man operation so I'm doing all of the sales and marketing myself.
My solution was to get the minimal ActiveCampaign account they offer and use it for my automation and marketing needs. Base and ActiveCampaign can work together using Zapier.
If you choose a higher level ActiveCampaign account, it does include a CRM with lead scoring and pipeline tracking. However, it's Mickey Mouse stuff compared to what Base can do
For example, Base's AI will actually tell you when a deal is in trouble based on the language contained within emails. It works amazingly well so you'll know right away if a potential deal needs your attention.
Another problem with Base is that they haven't improved it much. There are little things they should be able to fix right away, like having a field for a lead's phone extension. That's right, if you have a number and an extension, there's no place to enter the extension!
The knowledge base is very limited but support is decent. You'll be writing them a lot, not with technical issues, but with questions about functionality.
There's no community to speak of to after you sign up for Base, you feel like you're the only one using it.
- Secteur d'activité : Marketing et publicité
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 0.0 /10
Avoid this Zendesk stepchild!
Publié le 04/10/2022
Non-existent support. Sales team pretends like they have no obligation to deliver on promises. This...
Non-existent support. Sales team pretends like they have no obligation to deliver on promises. This product is NOT intended for business use. It's a liability to Zendesk.
Avantages
I used this product when it was Base CRM. It was a great crm, no fluff, just basic CRM features that worked really well.
Inconvénients
Zendesk's acquisition of this product was a disaster! They've got a bunch of bugs with bringing it into their ecosystem. It took almost a month to provision our account. Yes... we paid for a month of "we'll get it working soon, I promise!" Since then, in the past 6 months, our account has just disappeared as if we cancelled it (we paid for the year already). No login, no access to information, and no support. Support from Zendesk takes a few days per response. Getting back into our account last time took over a week. Right now, we're locked out of our CRM. It's costing us tons of money!
- Secteur d'activité : Immobilier
- Taille de l'entreprise : 2–10 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 1 à 5 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Very streamlined and efficient, user-friendly and easy to customize, great customer service.
Publié le 11/01/2018
Base made it easy for me to customize a CRM to exactly my needs, as well as bring all the functions...
Base made it easy for me to customize a CRM to exactly my needs, as well as bring all the functions of my business - from calls and emails to tracking deals and closings - into one place.
Avantages
I'm in the real estate field and I've used maybe a dozen different CRMs over the years, both for myself and at different companies. I've worked in Salesforce, Top Producer, and CINC extensively. I found Base on accident while I was trying out a handful of new CRMs to kick off a new independent venture, and it's easily the best one. It automatically logs a huge number of my activities so I don't have to take notes, includes a built-in phone system so I can make all calls through my computer quickly (and automatically track them), and it's really intuitive and easy to customize. Funny enough, I think one of their smartest "features" is that they give you a 30-day free trial on a full-service version of the software up front. Because it's a really intuitive system, getting a chance to click around in the CRM and test out how I would set it up made it clear quickly it was going to be an excellent option. PS - the customer service is fantastic. I'm admittedly a bit of a high-maintenance client, and they always respond quickly and with clear answers.
Inconvénients
There are a few places here and there in the Base CRM that are missing small features - for example, there's currently no "Previous Lead" or "Next Lead" button on each lead page, you just have to go back to your lead list (similar to Salesforce). That said, none of these little features have slowed me down any, and they are extremely receptive to feature feedbacks and requests - based on their responses I'm confident that this CRM is just going to continue getting better as they continue adjusting to client feedback and ideas.
- Secteur d'activité : Marketing et publicité
- Taille de l'entreprise : Auto-entrepreneur
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
I Love This CRM!
Publié le 08/04/2020
Avantages
I have used this CRM for 5+ years now and have tried a lot of other CRM's over the years and keep coming back to this. Its simple, easy to use, the layout makes sense for how a relationship progresses over time, it integrates into a lot of other software. I just love this in every way.
Inconvénients
I honestly have no cons with Zendesk Sell. I love this software.
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 2.0 /10
Zendesk purchased Base CRM and let it die
Publié le 14/05/2020
We were a long time Base CRM user, but since Zendesk purchased the platform it seems as if they...
We were a long time Base CRM user, but since Zendesk purchased the platform it seems as if they have stripped down the development and support resources. I had questions about the platform, and could not get any response from their support team after months, I tried their sales team and still took weeks to get a response to my inbound lead.
What a shame.
Avantages
Easy to use
You could get a good understanding of all the interactions with a customer from one screen.
Inconvénients
Zendesk has the worst customer service, which is crazy because they are a customer service platform.
Not many third-party integrations
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
- Taille de l'entreprise : 201–500 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Base CRM is an awesome enterprise CRM and personal productivity tool
Publié le 20/03/2018
Avantages
Automatic email, call, and text tracking, great full-featured mobile app, powerful and super intuitive web interface.
Inconvénients
Lack of out of the box integrations compared to less user-friendly tools like Salesforce or Zoho, additional products from Base (reach prospecting / apollo) that extend functionality only available to larger teams
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Excellent CRM
Publié le 22/11/2017
Avantages
This product was the 4th CRM our company tried before we found the customization we were looking for. This program currently manages customer contacts and all job information for 7 different construction supply companies under our umbrella. We couldn't be happier!
Inconvénients
They will customize A LOT...However, some things they just aren't willing to change. I understand, but it can be a little disappointing.
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 9.0 /10
Easy, convenient, effective
Publié le 05/12/2017
Information all in one. Easy access to notes. Email synced to notification for appts or follow ups.
Information all in one. Easy access to notes. Email synced to notification for appts or follow ups.
Avantages
All the information for a client is stored into one. You can see if an email was sent outside of Base or if an email that was sent from Base was opened and if so, how many times.
Inconvénients
It does sometimes shut down and if so it does for hours. Believe they may have fixed the glitch though as it has not happened in some time
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 7.0 /10
Good CRM
Publié le 13/05/2021
Good overall experience, nice tool that does what is needed
Good overall experience, nice tool that does what is needed
Avantages
A straightforward, simple tool that allows good lead and deal management. Not many integrations but you can do a lot with custom API
Inconvénients
Leads and contacts are separate which can create duplicate issues. Email sequences can be improved.
- Secteur d'activité : Services juridiques
- Taille de l'entreprise : 5 001–10 000 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 10.0 /10
Zendesk Sell: Mobility and Integration Solution!
Publié le 06/11/2019
Zendesk Sell was well rounded and flexible to cater to our needs. It has various features that we...
Zendesk Sell was well rounded and flexible to cater to our needs. It has various features that we are able to utilize, and smoothen up the sales process, such as customization of sales deals, automation of tasks and roles, forecasting sales, deal customization, even the organization of smart lists, and yeilding reports.
Avantages
As an independent sales representative for Medical Justice, we aimed to be both mobile and flexible for our clients. The company has then decided to dive into an all new CRM software that brings forth mobility and integration that would allow adoption and improvement from the representatives; this is how Zendesk Sell came into the picture. Zendesk Sell happen to offer and provide every detail the company needed for a CRM. It was perfect! It was our solution!
Inconvénients
So far, it's has been helpful and we love the fact of how flexible it was to cater to our needs, therefore, there is nothing to dislike, nor cons that we could think of.
- Secteur d'activité : Vente au détail
- Taille de l'entreprise : 501–1 000 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus d'un an
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 7.0 /10
Finally something new and interesting from Zendesk
Publié le 07/05/2020
The overall experience with Zendesk sell has been really good, I would recommend it.
The overall experience with Zendesk sell has been really good, I would recommend it.
Avantages
Our team really liked this tool over salesforce. There are a ton of really great options and features, along with a pretty easy to use UI.
Inconvénients
This is a new offering for Zendesk and the onboarding process left a lot to be desired. I do believe this will improve over time.
- Secteur d'activité : Hôtellerie
- Taille de l'entreprise : 2–10 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant Essai gratuit
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 0.0 /10
Trial Over, locked out of account, can't get access to my data: I trusted them with my company!
Publié le 19/06/2020
I am on day 3 of having no access to all my data. I can't get anyone to help me pay and regain...
I am on day 3 of having no access to all my data. I can't get anyone to help me pay and regain access after my trial (I started trying to sign up with 1 1/2" days left in the trial. My sales associate has vanished, no one is answering the sales phone number, no one is responding to my emails or phone messages. I have spoken to support, they can't help. They told me they would ping sales and label it "urgent." I called a phone number I pulled off of google, and the man apologized and said he'd help, but I still have no access or responses hours later. Ironic that they are a customer service management software company and they can't effectively manage a customer... Unbelievable. I trusted them with the data of my company and now I don't have access to it...
Avantages
It was easy to implement and customize and I hit the ground running
Inconvénients
The emails lag in arriving, and generally are not user friendly, I can't figure out how to have more than one contact per deal, and some features I want are not included in the lower tier version unlike their main competitor.
- Secteur d'activité : Eau/gaz/électricité
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 1.0 /10
Does not support SaaS business model. Very overpriced in comparison to other options in the...
Publié le 05/10/2020
Zendesk is good for companies that sell products and don't need advanced reporting capabilities....
Zendesk is good for companies that sell products and don't need advanced reporting capabilities. For other businesses, it is not a good option. The system is ok despite its limitations, but the price should be halved for it to be worth it.
Avantages
The system is intuitive and it is fairly easy to customize and set up. Available reports are very customizable and easy to use.
Inconvénients
System has limited functionalities. It mainly doesnt support SaaS business model and lacks certain key and also unimportant features. Despite excelling at the available reports the system offers, it does not allow you to access other key reports to the business without upgrading to the most expensive option (199$), leaving key business metrics to be manually calculated unless you pay 200 bucks per user.
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 8.0 /10
Sales Pipeline motivates our sales team
Publié le 13/02/2018
Avantages
Base CRM helps managing our team with deals within the Pipelines. It always motivates the team when they say the prospects moving within the Pipeline in the right direction.
Its a helpful CRM for sales people and help them define their activities.
Inconvénients
the mobile view need more attention to improve the activities management. The reporting of visual elements can be improved as well.
- Secteur d'activité : Conseil en gestion
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 6 à 12 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 8.0 /10
Goof value, great service
Publié le 19/12/2017
Overall good product, with some small drawbacks.
Overall good product, with some small drawbacks.
Avantages
The best aspect of this product is its flexibility and cross functional uses. I am able to manage from a sales operations standpoint and all of the reps are able to track and log from their mobile devices. The ability to customize the funnel stages is also critical to the way my company uses Base and makes our entire sales team far more efficient.
Inconvénients
There are some drawbacks in the analytics side of Base CRM. I do not always have the ability to procure the reports that I need and must accomplish them in the excel outputs. It is a manual process but only for the folks doing a deeper dive into the analysis.
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant plus de deux ans
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 9.0 /10
Base is okay. I probably wouldn't recommend them.
Publié le 07/06/2017
I get to track my leads. That is a big deal to me.
I get to track my leads. That is a big deal to me.
Avantages
I like how I can keep track of my leads. I can turn them into whatever categories I choose and I can follow them through until they become clients.
Inconvénients
I don't like the lack of integrations. When I want to integrate with other software Base is very lacking in that regard.
- Secteur d'activité : Construction
- Taille de l'entreprise : 11–50 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 1 à 5 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 7.0 /10
Base Crm
Publié le 02/02/2017
The base is a great client tracking software. Offering high-level reporting, whole team call, and...
The base is a great client tracking software. Offering high-level reporting, whole team call, and email monitoring, and a very good integrated mobile app Base gets the job done for keeping track of your internal communications.
Avantages
The mobile app syncs with each team member's phone and creates activity reports for each client. At any given moment you can check to monitor all communications, email, and calls sent to each client by your team. The activity stream allows the admin to monitor all communications for each team member in one place and creates a log to archive client interaction historically.
Inconvénients
Base CRM works with a 3rd party quoting software integration. Which can be confusing during the transition with your team. The third party does offer email tracking to see if the clients are opening the emails and the actual proposal allows clients to choose from a selection of optional items that auto calculates into the final total as they decide which work to complete out of a list.
- Secteur d'activité : Conseil en gestion
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 8.0 /10
Fantastic CRM
Publié le 26/08/2016
Avantages
Base's Support Team is fantastic. They flew out members of their team to get us set up. They gave shirts and other swag, and were a delight to deal with. Online support is fantastic, and quick. Base itself is easy to use, and has a streamlined work Flow. There software is very user friendly and modern. You can get up and running in a matter of days. Reach out to them and find out if their software will fit your needs. Either way, I'm sure they will be warm and welcoming to your team.
Inconvénients
We ultimately moved away from base because there was no way to create some key API integrations that we needed in our industry. I occasionally imported a doc that resulted in a few hundred duplicate users. They could be cleaned up quickly, but still inconvenient. :(
- Secteur d'activité : Logiciels
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 9.0 /10
Everything I have ever wanted in A CRM
Publié le 07/09/2016
Avantages
Base is great for small companies that want to get started with a CRM that has fantastic user support, easy information entry, and fantastic smart lists. If you are a company that has between 100 to about 2000 clients, you will love Base and their team. It's powerful, and can be taught in a day and shows users value from day one.
Inconvénients
Let's face it, you are town between using Base or Salesforce, and so were were. While base is cost effective in the beginning, we spent hundreds of engineering hours trying to migrate to Salesforce eventually, resulting in a negative savings. While I love Base for it's simplicity, if you know you will one day move, move to Salesforce today. Maybe one day Base will offer the amount of features and integrations that Salesforce has, but not today.
- Secteur d'activité : Agriculture
- Taille de l'entreprise : 2–10 employés
- Logiciel utilisé tous les jours pendant 1 à 5 mois
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- Probabilité de recommander le produit 7.0 /10
Base CRM
Publié le 19/04/2017
Overall this is a decent CRM for a young company. However, as with any CRM, you need to sit down...
Overall this is a decent CRM for a young company. However, as with any CRM, you need to sit down and do your homework. Look at where your business is now and where you want it to be in a few years. Will you outgrow this app quickly or will it serve your needs well over the long term. If you feel you may outgrow the app in short order, you may want to consider jumping right over to Salesforce rather than try to migrate your data. If you feel this app will serve your company and users well over several years, it is a solid option.
Avantages
What I liked best about this app is that it is fully integratable with other systems, and has great native mobile apps.
Inconvénients
What I liked least about this product was the ease of use, there is a bit of a learning curve. Also, the setup costs are a bit high.